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RobTheBob
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« on: November 01, 2009, 11:59:19 PM »

So I just went on a first date last night with a girl. We are both college students and she's Chinese and is from Taiwan. She was really quiet, but towards of the end of the date she started opening up. The cultural differences are hard at first along with the fact that I'm a 6'5" white American guy and she's a 5'4" Chinese girl (she's fluent in English by the way).

I feel like we really hit it off though. She wanted our first date to be kind of personal. We went to the store, bought some food, and then went back to a kitchen and cooked dinner for each other. Then we went to a haunted house (lame) that didn't last that long so we ended up seeing Paranormal Activity and I got to protect her Wink

We held hands through parts of the date but basically the entire date lasted about 5 1/2 hours. I ended up dropping her back at her apartment but there was no parking so I just told her that I had a great time and she smiled, said goodnight, and left.

Like I said, she's really shy and all, but she kept on making suggestions like, "We will end up taking pictures next time" and, "You should keep learning to cook so you can keep making me meals." So it seems like she has intentions of continuing to date.

So what do I do now? I want to call her and tell her that I really enjoyed the date, but do I make plans for next week? What else should I do? Do you guys think she may like me?

Oh P.S. she lives with her Mom in an apartment off campus for the first year. There are a lot of things I have to put up with (other than the fact that she still lives with her mom), but I really like this girl. We went to each others classes all day Friday and hung out and stuff like that but I still can't figure out if she's interested in me or not.

Thanks Everyone!
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2009, 07:22:14 PM »

Hi there Smiley  I'm a girl, and based on what you've said I think:

1.) Yes, she probably does like you.  The fact that she was willing to spend 5.5 hours straight with you -- and at least a portion of that alone cooking dinner so you'd have a chance to have a real conversation -- is a good sign.  The fact that she talked in terms of future dates is also a good sign.

2.) If she's shy, she may never be one of those gushy, clingy "I'm SOOOOOO glad to see you I missed you SOOOO much!" kind of girls.  She may always be a bit more reserved and earnest -- which may be a cultural thing, or it might just be her personality. 

3.) If I were you, I would call her or e-mail her to say you had a nice time and you'd like to see her again.  There will be probably be people who will tell you to wait a few days to call her, so you don't seem "too" into her -- I personally think that sort of behavior is game-playing bullsh*t, and if you want go out with her again you should say so.  Also, the game-playing may be a cultural thing that only Westerners do: she might misinterpret it as you not being interested in her.  All the more reason not to play games.

This part of the dating process is often the most fun -- good luck to you!  Smiley

P.S. - If I was that girl, and I saw the "There are a lot of things I have to put up with" line in your post,  it would make me really angry.  There may be excellent reasons for why she's living at home and commuting to school -- and none of them are about inconveniencing you!  Seriously, if you approach dating this girl with a "look at all I have to put up with" attitude, it's not going to work  Sad  Just saying....

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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2009, 08:45:57 PM »

Hi there Smiley  I'm a girl, and based on what you've said I think:

1.) Yes, she probably does like you.  The fact that she was willing to spend 5.5 hours straight with you -- and at least a portion of that alone cooking dinner so you'd have a chance to have a real conversation -- is a good sign.  The fact that she talked in terms of future dates is also a good sign.

2.) If she's shy, she may never be one of those gushy, clingy "I'm SOOOOOO glad to see you I missed you SOOOO much!" kind of girls.  She may always be a bit more reserved and earnest -- which may be a cultural thing, or it might just be her personality. 

3.) If I were you, I would call her or e-mail her to say you had a nice time and you'd like to see her again.  There will be probably be people who will tell you to wait a few days to call her, so you don't seem "too" into her -- I personally think that sort of behavior is game-playing bullsh*t, and if you want go out with her again you should say so.  Also, the game-playing may be a cultural thing that only Westerners do: she might misinterpret it as you not being interested in her.  All the more reason not to play games.

This part of the dating process is often the most fun -- good luck to you!  Smiley

P.S. - If I was that girl, and I saw the "There are a lot of things I have to put up with" line in your post,  it would make me really angry.  There may be excellent reasons for why she's living at home and commuting to school -- and none of them are about inconveniencing you!  Seriously, if you approach dating this girl with a "look at all I have to put up with" attitude, it's not going to work  Sad  Just saying....



I know what you're saying. That is my mistake. It's just that when it comes to playing games, she's really starting to get into my head. Honestly, she's literally mind****ing me. So I called her up last night, and told her I had a great time. She acted so uninterested in anything I had to say. I told her that I hope her Mom wasn't too mad and she just gave me a one-word "no". Then I suggested that we should go out again this week and she said, "Yeah, I don't know, I'll have to see what else I'm doing this week." In a really flat dull tone (as if she rather be doing something else). I try to to all these nice things for her and I don't get any recognition. She's sooo quiet and reserved and it's like she doesn't care, but at other times she smiles and wants to talk to me. I'm getting so many mixed signals. That's what I mean by "putting up" with all of this. These mind games, mixed signals, etc. It's driving me nuts and I'm getting depressed. All I'm trying to do is be nice and she doesn't give a s***.

Like I said, I'm not just trying to be nice to impress her; that's just the way I am. I'll never be some cocky a-hole that treats women like garbage a little bit just so they'll seem interested or whatever the hell. I hate that idea. I won't change who I am and treat women with anything less than complete respect. So, I apologize that I came off as a jerk by saying I had to "put up with all of this", but it's true. If you want to talk about mind games, and bulls***, welcome to my world. I am going crazy.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 02:07:54 AM »

Don't know what to tell you.  Maybe she's still shy around you, and is acting that way because she's afraid of saying the wrong thing.  Maybe when you called her, she'd just had a huge fight with her mom, but didn't want to mention it to you over the phone. Maybe she's just not a phone person (my sister is that way -- she likes having a boyfriend and hanging out with that boyfriend, but she doesn't like talking on the phone if she doesn't have something specific to say.  She ends up coming off as bitchy, but she isn't trying to be mean -- she just isn't comfortable "chatting" over the phone; she's got other more important things to do). 

The point is, it could be ANYTHING that's making this girl act that way.  The best advice I can give you is to keep trying.  You and she are still getting to know one another, and that takes time.  If she's still acting bland towards you after a couple of weeks, then maybe it's time to reassess the situation and decide if you're really interested in her (or if you'd prefer to find someone with a more lively personality).  But give it a few more dates before drawing any conclusions.
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 09:19:04 PM »

sounds like she likes you and the ball is in your court, just talk to her Tongue

let us know how it goes!
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2009, 06:26:43 AM »

I lived with my dad for a year after college, and when I'd get phone calls from guys, maaannn....I hated talking in front of my dad. I used the same tone of indifference that it sounds like your girl was using (probably because her mom was around somewhere!).  Especially in Asian cultures, people are very conscious of their words and very careful, especially around parents and elders, to make sure everything is appropriate.  She surely wouldn't want her mom to see her flirting with you. It's almost its own, unique genre of social anxiety.  I experience those crappy feelings of anxiety all the time.  If you already know she's shy, that's your clue.

Another piece of advice from a shy girl...you should go after her with all your strength, as though you would never even believe she couldn't be interested in you.  That type of confidence (to a girl who longs for confidence) is super super SUPER appealing. 
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2009, 09:04:48 PM »

Another piece of advice from a shy girl...you should go after her with all your strength, as though you would never even believe she couldn't be interested in you.  That type of confidence (to a girl who longs for confidence) is super super SUPER appealing. 

2nd that

I try to to all these nice things for her and I don't get any recognition.

Why are you looking for recognition if you're not trying to impress her?
Think about it.


Just go for what you want mate. You dont have to be a cocky bastard, just be assertive and indifferent ie. Not care how she reacts to what you do or say.
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2009, 11:45:41 PM »

the phone thing was probably she was with family or something, and so face to face is probably a better way to deal with her, then you can get to the truth of how she feels. spending that long on date might have been her politeness and not because she likes you but it does sound as if she enjoyed being with you.

i would email her or text her with a meeting at a time and date you know she could easily make at college and just ask her to be there if she wants to arrange a second date and have a coffee and if she comes you know she's just shy or had parents in ear shot and if she cant make it then you know it's a brush off.

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